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Klevenz, Stephan <stephan.klevenz@...>
Hi all,
I have a question, hopefully a small one :-) The CloudController.total_users metric (/CF\.CloudController\.0\..*\.total_users/) differs from number of users reported by uaac (uaac users command / admin ui). Can someone explain why this differs or which number is the correct one? Regards, Stephan |
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John Liptak
Cloud Controller reports the number of users register in CF console. UAAC
reports additional users who may have access to other applications. So they are both correct, depending on what you need. For example, if you call the REST API for a UAAC user that isn't in the CF console, but still call the cloud controller REST API, you will get a 404. On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Klevenz, Stephan <stephan.klevenz(a)sap.com> wrote: Hi all, |
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Klevenz, Stephan <stephan.klevenz@...>
Thanks for clarification
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-- Stephan Von: John Liptak Antworten an: "Discussions about Cloud Foundry projects and the system overall." Datum: Dienstag, 15. September 2015 18:17 An: "Discussions about Cloud Foundry projects and the system overall." Betreff: [cf-dev] Re: cc metric: total_users Cloud Controller reports the number of users register in CF console. UAAC reports additional users who may have access to other applications. So they are both correct, depending on what you need. For example, if you call the REST API for a UAAC user that isn't in the CF console, but still call the cloud controller REST API, you will get a 404. On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Klevenz, Stephan <stephan.klevenz(a)sap.com<mailto:stephan.klevenz(a)sap.com>> wrote:
Hi all, I have a question, hopefully a small one :-) The CloudController.total_users metric (/CF\.CloudController\.0\..*\.total_users/) differs from number of users reported by uaac (uaac users command / admin ui). Can someone explain why this differs or which number is the correct one? Regards, Stephan |
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Marco Voelz
Hi John,
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thanks for your answer, however, I don’t understand that completely. For the open source version of CF, what does “register in CF console” mean? And what might be an example of “other applications” you are referring to? Thanks and warm regards Marco On 16/09/15 08:29, "Klevenz, Stephan" <stephan.klevenz(a)sap.com<mailto:stephan.klevenz(a)sap.com>> wrote:
Thanks for clarification -- Stephan Von: John Liptak Antworten an: "Discussions about Cloud Foundry projects and the system overall." Datum: Dienstag, 15. September 2015 18:17 An: "Discussions about Cloud Foundry projects and the system overall." Betreff: [cf-dev] Re: cc metric: total_users Cloud Controller reports the number of users register in CF console. UAAC reports additional users who may have access to other applications. So they are both correct, depending on what you need. For example, if you call the REST API for a UAAC user that isn't in the CF console, but still call the cloud controller REST API, you will get a 404. On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Klevenz, Stephan <stephan.klevenz(a)sap.com<mailto:stephan.klevenz(a)sap.com>> wrote: Hi all, I have a question, hopefully a small one :-) The CloudController.total_users metric (/CF\.CloudController\.0\..*\.total_users/) differs from number of users reported by uaac (uaac users command / admin ui). Can someone explain why this differs or which number is the correct one? Regards, Stephan |
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CF Runtime
The users reported by CloudController.total_users are the users the Cloud
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Controller has in its database. This is normally the same set of users that exist in UAA. However, there is nothing that prevents you from creating users via the UAAC cli tool, or creating new UAA clients that can create users themselves. Joseph OSS Release Integration Team On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 12:03 AM, Voelz, Marco <marco.voelz(a)sap.com> wrote:
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Klevenz, Stephan <stephan.klevenz@...>
Hi,
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I did look deeper into implementation. Actually there are two databases: ccdb and uaadb. Each of them has its own users table. The user count value of the uaadb/users is reported to admin ui and the user count of the ccdb/users is used for total_user metric. A ccdb/users table entry contains just a refid and for getting user details from uaa. So, we have two totals which can be different if users created for uaa which a not cc users. That's fine and this is what I did get from the first answer. But there is a remaining open point. The total of our ccdb/users is bigger than total of uaa/users. This is an inconsistency in ccdb/users which contains references to uaa users that do not exist. If this diffs grows over time then this is maybe a problem. Regards, Stephan Von: CF Runtime Antworten an: "Discussions about Cloud Foundry projects and the system overall." Datum: Mittwoch, 16. September 2015 10:56 An: "Discussions about Cloud Foundry projects and the system overall." Betreff: [cf-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: cc metric: total_users The users reported by CloudController.total_users are the users the Cloud Controller has in its database. This is normally the same set of users that exist in UAA. However, there is nothing that prevents you from creating users via the UAAC cli tool, or creating new UAA clients that can create users themselves. Joseph OSS Release Integration Team On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 12:03 AM, Voelz, Marco <marco.voelz(a)sap.com<mailto:marco.voelz(a)sap.com>> wrote:
Hi John, thanks for your answer, however, I don’t understand that completely. For the open source version of CF, what does “register in CF console” mean? And what might be an example of “other applications” you are referring to? Thanks and warm regards Marco On 16/09/15 08:29, "Klevenz, Stephan" <stephan.klevenz(a)sap.com<mailto:stephan.klevenz(a)sap.com>> wrote: Thanks for clarification -- Stephan Von: John Liptak Antworten an: "Discussions about Cloud Foundry projects and the system overall." Datum: Dienstag, 15. September 2015 18:17 An: "Discussions about Cloud Foundry projects and the system overall." Betreff: [cf-dev] Re: cc metric: total_users Cloud Controller reports the number of users register in CF console. UAAC reports additional users who may have access to other applications. So they are both correct, depending on what you need. For example, if you call the REST API for a UAAC user that isn't in the CF console, but still call the cloud controller REST API, you will get a 404. On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Klevenz, Stephan <stephan.klevenz(a)sap.com<mailto:stephan.klevenz(a)sap.com>> wrote: Hi all, I have a question, hopefully a small one :-) The CloudController.total_users metric (/CF\.CloudController\.0\..*\.total_users/) differs from number of users reported by uaac (uaac users command / admin ui). Can someone explain why this differs or which number is the correct one? Regards, Stephan |
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CF Runtime
Yeah, just as it is possible to create users in UAA, it is also possible to
delete them there, thus orphaning the user accounts in the Cloud Controller. The orphaned users won't cause any problems in the Cloud Controller, but the metrics may not be what you expect at that point. The cf CLI automatically deletes users out of both when it is used. Joseph OSS Release Integration Team On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 4:29 AM, Klevenz, Stephan <stephan.klevenz(a)sap.com> wrote: Hi, |
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