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How to use /v2/app_usage_events for billing purpose
王小锋 <zzuwxf at gmail.com...>
Hi, there I have deployed CF env in AWS, and there are some applications running on it. I found one useful article talking about billing CF users : https://blog.starkandwayne.com/2015/01/22/billing-your-cloud-foundry-users/. I tried cf curl /v2/app_usage_events in my CF env, I found that I could only retrieve app events for one month, is this exepcted? Is it able to change the default "one month" in CF deployment manifest? If I want to track the app usage for one org, for example org1, and org1 have one app running for more than one month, then there will be no app usage for this long running app, then how to meter such app? Should I list all apps available in the org currenlty, if the app is not in the app usage event, I could image the app has been created more than one month? Another thing, if I want to bill app usage by month, should I call /v2/app_usage_events/destructively_purge_all_and_reseed_started_apps at the end of each month? Is there anyone have done similar things in the past and share your experience? Many thanks.
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Re: JMX MBean Endpoint on Pivotal Web Services
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JMX MBean Endpoint on Pivotal Web Services
Nikhil Katre <nikhil.katre@...>
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I am reading https://docs.cloudfoundry.org/concepts/architecture/warden.html#cpu and it said: If B is idle, A may receive up to all the CPU. Shares per cgroup range from 2 to 1024, with 1024 the default. Both Diego apps and DEA apps scale the number of allocated shares linearly with the amount of memory, with an app instance requesting 8G of memory getting the upper limit of 1024 shares. Diego also guarantees a minimum of 10 shares per app instance. So 1024 is the default share every app get by default? Say I start with an empty DEA. APP #1: 1G shared = 1024? APP #2 added. 1G shared =? what happen to APP #1? APP #2 added: 512MB shared =? What happened to APP #1 & APP 2? APP #3 added: 8GB, now what happened? I am all assuming their usage is nearly idle. What is the total number of share for a N-core DEA? Also are the shares dynamic? In the mean time I will try to understand how CPU usage is shared in cgroup from other resource. Thanks. John
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Re: Notifications on ORG, SPACE and USER modifications
I’m going to need something like this too for the CF Abacus service metering project, as I’d like to track the lifecycle of orgs, users, etc to match their history with the usage data reported for them. Here’s a straw man description of what I had in mind: - For Abacus, I’d need a Lossless API. Usage metering eventually translates to billing and money, you don’t want to lose that :) - An extension or variant of the current CF /v2/events API supporting users, orgs, app usage etc, as even with a notification API I’ll still need to do GETs sometimes. - 304 responses with etags on these GETs (as suggested earlier in the thread [1]) would be good. - A Webhook style notification API where I could register interest in a selection of events with a callback URL, and get these events POSTed back to me at that URL, similar to what Github and many others do with Webhooks. - On top of Webhooks, it’d be nice to have a form of streaming (either down to the client like the Firehose does or in the other direction up to the Webhook callback URL), but I'm not sure if we’ll need that in the project right away. - We’d obviously need some form of security, maybe use my user token to register for events on entities that I have access to? - I’m also curious about the group’s thoughts on queueing and back-pressure when events get generated faster that they can be consumed for example. There was a mention of some message queuing earlier [2]. That would make sense to me (although IMO it’d be good if the underlying MQ didn’t shine through the API). What did you have in mind for this? I guess there are quite a few things to figure out here! I’ll be happy to collaborate with the community on these discussions. Thoughts? [1] http://cf-dev.70369.x6.nabble.com/cf-dev-Notifications-on-ORG-SPACE-and-USER-modifications-tp827p842.html[2] http://cf-dev.70369.x6.nabble.com/cf-dev-Notifications-on-ORG-SPACE-and-USER-modifications-tp827p834.html- Jean-Sebastien
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Matt Cowger <matt(a)cowger.us> wrote: I think ETags is reasonable thought as well.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Benjamin Black <bblack(a)pivotal.io> wrote:
ETags and a 304 response are specifically intended for that purpose. I'd
recommend that over relying on Last-Modified.
b
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 12:34 AM, Koper, Dies <diesk(a)fast.au.fujitsu.com>
wrote:
Or setting the Last-Modified HTTP response header accordingly, and
allow clients to use HTTP caching mechanisms (Last-Modified, etc.) to get
quick empty responses with the current APIs if no changes have been made?
(Or maybe this is already working so – haven’t checked).
Regards,
Dies Koper
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*Subject:* Re: [cf-dev] Notifications on ORG, SPACE and USER
modifications
I've wanted something similar as well.
On a related note, having a CC API 'serial' number (for each object in
CC - apps, spaces, etc) that increments on every change relevant to that
object would be of value for detecting if something has changed.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Dieu Cao <dcao(a)pivotal.io> wrote:
There are a few different approaches to this and different concerns that
are possible.
The requests I've seen have been around wanting to be able to subscribe
to and filter the various events that cc currently generates so that other
behavior could be triggered.
We currently have events, app usage events, and service usage events.
Is it acceptable for the notifications to be lossy? Depends on the use
case but If so, then the firehose may be an acceptable approach.
The CAPI team is currently focusing on other work in the near term, such
as the v3 API and private brokers, but would be happy to collaborate on a
proposal.
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Juan Pablo Genovese <
juanpgenovese(a)gmail.com> wrote:
My take:
CC should have callbacks on for each model create, update and delete
methods. Those callbacks will send a message to an MQ, which you can
subscribe to consume those messages.
This can be expanded to pretty much every event we need to track.
What do you think?
JP
2015-07-22 17:30 GMT-03:00 Matthias X Hub <matthias.hub(a)de.ibm.com>:
Hi,
we (=IBM) are also having the need and are currently investigating how
to solve this. We plan to work on a proposal to discuss this further with
the cf community. I'll keep you updated on that.
Regards,
Matthias
From: Mike Youngstrom <youngm(a)gmail.com>
To: "Discussions about Cloud Foundry projects and the system
overall." <cf-dev(a)lists.cloudfoundry.org>
Date: 22.07.2015 20:57
Subject: Re: [cf-dev] Notifications on ORG, SPACE and USER
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We have the same need. Today we are polling the CC.
It would be nice for us also if we could get CC event notifications via
something like the firehose.
Mike
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Juan Pablo Genovese <
juanpgenovese(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I mean, I know you can list those events thru the API, but I want
something that will react on an event instead of having to be constantly
polling for them.
2015-07-22 13:18 GMT-03:00 Juan Pablo Genovese <juanpgenovese(a)gmail.com>:
Sree,
thanks! Any pointers on how can I hook up to these audit events?
Thank you!
2015-07-22 13:12 GMT-03:00 Sree Tummidi <stummidi(a)pivotal.io>:
I believe there are audit events generated for all these actions which
can be captured and forwarded to an SIEM solution like splunk
Thanks,
Sree
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On Jul 22, 2015, at 8:54 AM, Juan Pablo Genovese <
juanpgenovese(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
I need to somehow hook up into the Cloud Controller (CC) to capture ORG,
SPACE and USER deletion, insertion and update.
So far, I considered some approaches, such as forking the CC (the least
favorite) and modifying the code with some hooks, tapping into Nginx to
capture the requests, and using triggers in the database to capture each
event and send the necessary info to a service.
What do you think?
Any other idea you might have?
Thanks!
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Re: Running Jira into Cloudfoundry
Dear Gwenn,
I guess Jira is a typical example of an application not really fit for a platform like CF, given the way of configuring the DB and that it stores attachments on the local filesystem. However, at the same time it would make an interesting example case, as many people ask about it. Please let us know how it works out for you! :)
Warm regards
Marco
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Not sure yet .. I am still thinking about that ..
But anyway if ERS is too hard I will use the bosh way :)
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 6:24 PM, john mcteague <john.mcteague(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Out of curiosity how do you plan on solving the storage problem for
attachments, assuming you get the DB working.
John.
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Re: Allow gorouter to log random headers.
Simon Johansson <simon@...>
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On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 6:46 AM, David Laing <david(a)davidlaing.com> wrote: Shannon,
Understood. PR for "as an operator of Cloud Foundry, I want to enable
logging of specified headers for all applications." coming up.
Experience will tell whether there are any sensible defaults; but we can
leave that for a future enhancement of this functionality.
Regards
David
On 28 July 2015 at 03:54, Shannon Coen <scoen(a)pivotal.io> wrote:
Thank you, James. That helps.
What bothered me about this thread was that the use case was presented
as, "as an unspecified persona, I want to customize the multi-tenant router
to log specified headers for a few apps". This is troubling.
Instead it sounds like the use case is "as an operator of Cloud Foundry,
I want to enable logging of specified headers for all applications." This
is more compelling.
I'm skeptical that this manifest property should have a default. Who's to
say what the minimum list of "sensible" defaults is? Does WAKAWAKA make the
cut? j/k.
We'll take a PR.
Shannon Coen
Product Manager, Cloud Foundry
Pivotal, Inc.
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 8:46 AM, David Laing <david(a)davidlaing.com>
wrote:
James,
Yep - we're pretty much on the same page.
Only addition I would ask for is that the whitelist contain some
"sensible" defaults (eg, Trace-Id, Span-Id) that are switched on by
default; since then tight integration with tools like spring-cloud /
buildpacks would work out the box.
D
On 24 July 2015 at 16:26, James Bayer <jbayer(a)pivotal.io> wrote:
shannon,
from what i'm reading here about the use case, the main interest is
that a CF operator knows that their cf installation is more deeply
integrated with a specific log parsing solution for all/many apps on that
platform that choose to use it (whether than is ELK, Zipkin, etc). it does
not sound like it is a special case with lots of variation by many
different app teams on the cf installation. rather, it sounds like this is
most likely to be used as an installation-wide option to enhance the app
developer / app operations experience.
it seems like an operator configured whitelist set of headers that get
logged with the RTR message satisfies the current needs well and is
reasonable.
if we were to find that in the future lots of variation and different
app teams on the same CF wanted to have the RTR tier log many different
headers in the access log, then we could enhance the "log the whitelist of
headers to the access log" capability to be exposed to a limited number of
headers that each route could be configured by developers to specify that
would apply in addition to the operator configured logged headers. but it
sounds like that isn't needed right now.
simon/david, did i summarize this correctly?
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Simon Johansson <
simon(a)simonjohansson.com> wrote:
If I understand correctly, you're proposing that an operator of CloudFoundry configure GoRouter, which is a multi-tenant, shared service,
with knowledge specific to one or a few applications
That is indeed the proposal. In my org we work closely with the
different development streams to provide a good out of the box experience
by creating certain opt-in features that makes their life easier. This
would be one of those features, if you pass certain headers in your
requests thats standardised across the entire online organisation you will
be able to query for them in Kibana.
I understand that this is not the case in all environments.
If GoRouter logged whatever headers were included in the request, wouldn't this satisfy your requirements?
This would indeed satisfy my requests, but as David points out("However,
not having a whitelist of headers to log opens a possible DDOS attack
vector on the GoRouter") it might now be appropriate.
Based on what you've described, the persona is the app developer. Not necessarily, we operators are also very interested in certain
headers.
so control of what is logged should be in their hands. If one via the API could set headers that should be logged for an org,
space or application that would be magical. The need for a list of
"must-log-all-these-headers" would still be there I think as not to have to
maintain a list of these standardised headers across different objects.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:51 PM, Shannon Coen <scoen(a)pivotal.io>
wrote:
This is not something that would be merged, as originally proposed,
without additional investigation and discussion.
If I understand correctly, you're proposing that an operator of
CloudFoundry configure GoRouter, which is a multi-tenant, shared service,
with knowledge specific to one or a few applications. This should not be an
operator responsibility, nor should the solution be specific to one or a
few applications.
The goal is "the flexibility of being able to annotate our logs with
what we consider to be important for our debugging purposes." More
specifically you're requesting logging of headers. Do you have a preference?
If GoRouter logged whatever headers were included in the request,
wouldn't this satisfy your requirements? Doesn't GoRouter do this already?
I'm interested in solving your requirement generically for all
applications, and focussing the user experience on the correct persona.
Based on what you've described, the persona is the app developer, so
control of what is logged should be in their hands. I'm also not convinced
GoRouter should have any knowledge of headers specific to one application
or another.
Shannon Coen
Product Manager, Cloud Foundry
Pivotal, Inc.
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Alex Lomov <
alexander.lomov(a)altoros.com> wrote:
Some time ago routing services were discussed on a CAB [1]. Here is
a description of this proposal.
Do you think that using such service will allow your developers to
cover this requirements?
[1]
http://www.activestate.com/blog/2015/02/cloud-foundry-advisory-board-meeting-2015-february
[2]
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bGOQxiKkmaw6uaRWGd-sXpxL0Y28d3QihcluI15FiIA/edit#heading=h.8djffzes9pnb
On Jul 21, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Simon Johansson <
simon(a)simonjohansson.com> wrote:
Howdie!
We have some devs who want to be able to trace a request troughout
their applications.
user -> a -> b -> c
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When a user makes a request to "a" uuid is generated inside the app,
and the request to "b" from "a" will set a header(call it WAKAWAKA to
uuid), "b"'s call will passthrough WAKAWAKA to "c" and "d", "d" will
passthrough WAKAWAKA to "e". Etc.
We aggregate all RTR logs into ELK so it would be super helpful to
them to be able to filter on WAKAWAKA and get all the access logs(and app
logs aswell, they mostly use GELF so its easy for them to add whatewher
field they want) from the services involved.
I had a quick peek at the gorouter(
https://github.com/cloudfoundry/gorouter/blob/76668f5818ea8c089ff52a14fcdfbf703c8e8767/access_log/access_log_record.go#L40)
and it seems like this should be a simple PR.
1. To gorouter.yml add
passthrough_headers:
- WAKAWAKA
- X-Random-Header
2. In makeRecord at the bottom add something like(in psuedo)
data = {}
for header in passthrough_headers:
header_val = r.FormatRequestHeader("X-Forwarded-For")
if header_val:
passthrough_headers[header] = header_val
if data:
fmt.Fprintf(b, data.to_stringified_json())
That would yield a log line like
blurgh.dev.cf.private.domain.com - [21/07/2015:10:17:05 +0000] "GET
/statements?ascending=true&since=2015-06-30T14%3A10%3A03.078Z&skipStatementId=30a88204-0779-4385-9859-e4aabd30baf0
HTTP/1.1" 200 0 17 "-" "NING/1.0" 10.230.31.2:46204
x_forwarded_for:"-" vcap_request_id:1e58195a-cde6-4afd-7f03-43061c9ea91c
response_time:0.004927106 app_id:9784cd03-050d-4b74-9e90-5f17134a3f08
{"WAKAWAKA": "Space is the place", "X-Random-Header": "Once upon a midnight
dreary, while I pondered weak and weary"}
The reason for a stringified JSON is to make it easy to parse with
logstash or other loganalysis tools.
Before I spend time implementing, is this something you would merge?
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Re: Allow gorouter to log random headers.
Shannon,
Understood. PR for "as an operator of Cloud Foundry, I want to enable
logging of specified headers for all applications." coming up.
Experience will tell whether there are any sensible defaults; but we can
leave that for a future enhancement of this functionality.
Regards
David
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On 28 July 2015 at 03:54, Shannon Coen <scoen(a)pivotal.io> wrote: Thank you, James. That helps.
What bothered me about this thread was that the use case was presented as,
"as an unspecified persona, I want to customize the multi-tenant router to
log specified headers for a few apps". This is troubling.
Instead it sounds like the use case is "as an operator of Cloud Foundry, I
want to enable logging of specified headers for all applications." This is
more compelling.
I'm skeptical that this manifest property should have a default. Who's to
say what the minimum list of "sensible" defaults is? Does WAKAWAKA make the
cut? j/k.
We'll take a PR.
Shannon Coen
Product Manager, Cloud Foundry
Pivotal, Inc.
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 8:46 AM, David Laing <david(a)davidlaing.com> wrote:
James,
Yep - we're pretty much on the same page.
Only addition I would ask for is that the whitelist contain some
"sensible" defaults (eg, Trace-Id, Span-Id) that are switched on by
default; since then tight integration with tools like spring-cloud /
buildpacks would work out the box.
D
On 24 July 2015 at 16:26, James Bayer <jbayer(a)pivotal.io> wrote:
shannon,
from what i'm reading here about the use case, the main interest is that
a CF operator knows that their cf installation is more deeply integrated
with a specific log parsing solution for all/many apps on that platform
that choose to use it (whether than is ELK, Zipkin, etc). it does not sound
like it is a special case with lots of variation by many different app
teams on the cf installation. rather, it sounds like this is most likely to
be used as an installation-wide option to enhance the app developer / app
operations experience.
it seems like an operator configured whitelist set of headers that get
logged with the RTR message satisfies the current needs well and is
reasonable.
if we were to find that in the future lots of variation and different
app teams on the same CF wanted to have the RTR tier log many different
headers in the access log, then we could enhance the "log the whitelist of
headers to the access log" capability to be exposed to a limited number of
headers that each route could be configured by developers to specify that
would apply in addition to the operator configured logged headers. but it
sounds like that isn't needed right now.
simon/david, did i summarize this correctly?
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Simon Johansson <
simon(a)simonjohansson.com> wrote:
If I understand correctly, you're proposing that an operator of CloudFoundry configure GoRouter, which is a multi-tenant, shared service,
with knowledge specific to one or a few applications
That is indeed the proposal. In my org we work closely with the
different development streams to provide a good out of the box experience
by creating certain opt-in features that makes their life easier. This
would be one of those features, if you pass certain headers in your
requests thats standardised across the entire online organisation you will
be able to query for them in Kibana.
I understand that this is not the case in all environments.
If GoRouter logged whatever headers were included in the request, wouldn't this satisfy your requirements?
This would indeed satisfy my requests, but as David points out("However,
not having a whitelist of headers to log opens a possible DDOS attack
vector on the GoRouter") it might now be appropriate.
Based on what you've described, the persona is the app developer. Not necessarily, we operators are also very interested in certain
headers.
so control of what is logged should be in their hands. If one via the API could set headers that should be logged for an org,
space or application that would be magical. The need for a list of
"must-log-all-these-headers" would still be there I think as not to have to
maintain a list of these standardised headers across different objects.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:51 PM, Shannon Coen <scoen(a)pivotal.io>
wrote:
This is not something that would be merged, as originally proposed,
without additional investigation and discussion.
If I understand correctly, you're proposing that an operator of
CloudFoundry configure GoRouter, which is a multi-tenant, shared service,
with knowledge specific to one or a few applications. This should not be an
operator responsibility, nor should the solution be specific to one or a
few applications.
The goal is "the flexibility of being able to annotate our logs with
what we consider to be important for our debugging purposes." More
specifically you're requesting logging of headers. Do you have a preference?
If GoRouter logged whatever headers were included in the request,
wouldn't this satisfy your requirements? Doesn't GoRouter do this already?
I'm interested in solving your requirement generically for all
applications, and focussing the user experience on the correct persona.
Based on what you've described, the persona is the app developer, so
control of what is logged should be in their hands. I'm also not convinced
GoRouter should have any knowledge of headers specific to one application
or another.
Shannon Coen
Product Manager, Cloud Foundry
Pivotal, Inc.
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Alex Lomov <
alexander.lomov(a)altoros.com> wrote:
Some time ago routing services were discussed on a CAB [1]. Here is a
description of this proposal.
Do you think that using such service will allow your developers to
cover this requirements?
[1]
http://www.activestate.com/blog/2015/02/cloud-foundry-advisory-board-meeting-2015-february
[2]
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bGOQxiKkmaw6uaRWGd-sXpxL0Y28d3QihcluI15FiIA/edit#heading=h.8djffzes9pnb
On Jul 21, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Simon Johansson <
simon(a)simonjohansson.com> wrote:
Howdie!
We have some devs who want to be able to trace a request troughout
their applications.
user -> a -> b -> c
|
|-> d -> e
When a user makes a request to "a" uuid is generated inside the app,
and the request to "b" from "a" will set a header(call it WAKAWAKA to
uuid), "b"'s call will passthrough WAKAWAKA to "c" and "d", "d" will
passthrough WAKAWAKA to "e". Etc.
We aggregate all RTR logs into ELK so it would be super helpful to
them to be able to filter on WAKAWAKA and get all the access logs(and app
logs aswell, they mostly use GELF so its easy for them to add whatewher
field they want) from the services involved.
I had a quick peek at the gorouter(
https://github.com/cloudfoundry/gorouter/blob/76668f5818ea8c089ff52a14fcdfbf703c8e8767/access_log/access_log_record.go#L40)
and it seems like this should be a simple PR.
1. To gorouter.yml add
passthrough_headers:
- WAKAWAKA
- X-Random-Header
2. In makeRecord at the bottom add something like(in psuedo)
data = {}
for header in passthrough_headers:
header_val = r.FormatRequestHeader("X-Forwarded-For")
if header_val:
passthrough_headers[header] = header_val
if data:
fmt.Fprintf(b, data.to_stringified_json())
That would yield a log line like
blurgh.dev.cf.private.domain.com - [21/07/2015:10:17:05 +0000] "GET
/statements?ascending=true&since=2015-06-30T14%3A10%3A03.078Z&skipStatementId=30a88204-0779-4385-9859-e4aabd30baf0
HTTP/1.1" 200 0 17 "-" "NING/1.0" 10.230.31.2:46204
x_forwarded_for:"-" vcap_request_id:1e58195a-cde6-4afd-7f03-43061c9ea91c
response_time:0.004927106 app_id:9784cd03-050d-4b74-9e90-5f17134a3f08
{"WAKAWAKA": "Space is the place", "X-Random-Header": "Once upon a midnight
dreary, while I pondered weak and weary"}
The reason for a stringified JSON is to make it easy to parse with
logstash or other loganalysis tools.
Before I spend time implementing, is this something you would merge?
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Re: cflinuxfs2 stack not fount under v210.2 release
What weird is that it happens occasionally, and i had pushed java, nodejs, pyton application with community buildpacks. Yes, it's at staging level. I'll paste logs here when failed again. Thank you On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Gwenn Etourneau <getourneau(a)pivotal.io> wrote: Btw when the error "*cflinuxfs2 stack not found" come ? At the staging
level ? do you have some log?*
*Which buildpack are you using and so on ..*
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Yitao Jiang <jiangyt.cn(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
This is the output:
Getting stacks in org org / space ace as ***@*****...
OK
name description
cflinuxfs2 Ubuntu 14.04.2 trusty
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Gwenn Etourneau <getourneau(a)pivotal.io>
wrote:
What cf stacks command give you ?
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Yitao Jiang <jiangyt.cn(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
We built our own release using community source code, and he just told
me that using cf-210002.
I know that the stack are install during the deployment and i just
verify that all deas have installed cflinusfs2 stack.
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Gwenn Etourneau <
getourneau(a)pivotal.io> wrote:
I mean which version are the DEA ? the stack do not live in the
stemcell ... The stack are install during the deployment
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Yitao Jiang <jiangyt.cn(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Yes,all deas are built from same stemcell, all with fresh
installation
+-------------------------------------------+---------+--------------------------------------+
| Name | Version | CID
|
+-------------------------------------------+---------+--------------------------------------+
| bosh-openstack-kvm-ubuntu-trusty-go_agent | 2978* |
bc3592a8-64fd-44b1-a9c0-797953f86e13 |
+-------------------------------------------+---------+--------------------------------------+
(*) Currently in-use
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Gwenn Etourneau <
getourneau(a)pivotal.io> wrote:
Are you sure all you DEA are at the same version ?
I think so but I don't know maybe rare case.
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Yitao Jiang <jiangyt.cn(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi,
Does any body ever have the problem of deploying application failed
in *cflinuxfs2 stack not found?*
we deployed v210.2 release and occasionally it failed in*
cflinuxfs2 not found* when deploying. It's weird that the nats
with 2 nodes all works fine, i can manually received the msgs distributed
among the cluster.
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Re: cflinuxfs2 stack not fount under v210.2 release
Btw when the error "*cflinuxfs2 stack not found" come ? At the staging
level ? do you have some log?*
*Which buildpack are you using and so on ..*
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On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Yitao Jiang <jiangyt.cn(a)gmail.com> wrote: This is the output:
Getting stacks in org org / space ace as ***@*****...
OK
name description
cflinuxfs2 Ubuntu 14.04.2 trusty
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Gwenn Etourneau <getourneau(a)pivotal.io>
wrote:
What cf stacks command give you ?
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Yitao Jiang <jiangyt.cn(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
We built our own release using community source code, and he just told
me that using cf-210002.
I know that the stack are install during the deployment and i just
verify that all deas have installed cflinusfs2 stack.
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Gwenn Etourneau <getourneau(a)pivotal.io
wrote: I mean which version are the DEA ? the stack do not live in the
stemcell ... The stack are install during the deployment
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Yitao Jiang <jiangyt.cn(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Yes,all deas are built from same stemcell, all with fresh installation
+-------------------------------------------+---------+--------------------------------------+
| Name | Version | CID
|
+-------------------------------------------+---------+--------------------------------------+
| bosh-openstack-kvm-ubuntu-trusty-go_agent | 2978* |
bc3592a8-64fd-44b1-a9c0-797953f86e13 |
+-------------------------------------------+---------+--------------------------------------+
(*) Currently in-use
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Gwenn Etourneau <
getourneau(a)pivotal.io> wrote:
Are you sure all you DEA are at the same version ?
I think so but I don't know maybe rare case.
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Yitao Jiang <jiangyt.cn(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi,
Does any body ever have the problem of deploying application failed
in *cflinuxfs2 stack not found?*
we deployed v210.2 release and occasionally it failed in*
cflinuxfs2 not found* when deploying. It's weird that the nats with
2 nodes all works fine, i can manually received the msgs distributed among
the cluster.
Regards,
Yitao
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Re: cflinuxfs2 stack not fount under v210.2 release
This is the output: Getting stacks in org org / space ace as ***@*****... OK name description cflinuxfs2 Ubuntu 14.04.2 trusty On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Gwenn Etourneau <getourneau(a)pivotal.io> wrote: What cf stacks command give you ?
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Yitao Jiang <jiangyt.cn(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
We built our own release using community source code, and he just told
me that using cf-210002.
I know that the stack are install during the deployment and i just verify
that all deas have installed cflinusfs2 stack.
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Gwenn Etourneau <getourneau(a)pivotal.io>
wrote:
I mean which version are the DEA ? the stack do not live in the stemcell
... The stack are install during the deployment
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Yitao Jiang <jiangyt.cn(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Yes,all deas are built from same stemcell, all with fresh installation
+-------------------------------------------+---------+--------------------------------------+
| Name | Version | CID
|
+-------------------------------------------+---------+--------------------------------------+
| bosh-openstack-kvm-ubuntu-trusty-go_agent | 2978* |
bc3592a8-64fd-44b1-a9c0-797953f86e13 |
+-------------------------------------------+---------+--------------------------------------+
(*) Currently in-use
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Gwenn Etourneau <getourneau(a)pivotal.io
wrote: Are you sure all you DEA are at the same version ?
I think so but I don't know maybe rare case.
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Yitao Jiang <jiangyt.cn(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi,
Does any body ever have the problem of deploying application failed
in *cflinuxfs2 stack not found?*
we deployed v210.2 release and occasionally it failed in* cflinuxfs2
not found* when deploying. It's weird that the nats with 2 nodes all
works fine, i can manually received the msgs distributed among the cluster.
Regards,
Yitao
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Re: cflinuxfs2 stack not fount under v210.2 release
What cf stacks command give you ?
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On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Yitao Jiang <jiangyt.cn(a)gmail.com> wrote: We built our own release using community source code, and he just told me
that using cf-210002.
I know that the stack are install during the deployment and i just verify
that all deas have installed cflinusfs2 stack.
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Gwenn Etourneau <getourneau(a)pivotal.io>
wrote:
I mean which version are the DEA ? the stack do not live in the stemcell
... The stack are install during the deployment
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Yitao Jiang <jiangyt.cn(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Yes,all deas are built from same stemcell, all with fresh installation
+-------------------------------------------+---------+--------------------------------------+
| Name | Version | CID
|
+-------------------------------------------+---------+--------------------------------------+
| bosh-openstack-kvm-ubuntu-trusty-go_agent | 2978* |
bc3592a8-64fd-44b1-a9c0-797953f86e13 |
+-------------------------------------------+---------+--------------------------------------+
(*) Currently in-use
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Gwenn Etourneau <getourneau(a)pivotal.io>
wrote:
Are you sure all you DEA are at the same version ?
I think so but I don't know maybe rare case.
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Yitao Jiang <jiangyt.cn(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi,
Does any body ever have the problem of deploying application failed in *cflinuxfs2
stack not found?*
we deployed v210.2 release and occasionally it failed in* cflinuxfs2
not found* when deploying. It's weird that the nats with 2 nodes all
works fine, i can manually received the msgs distributed among the cluster.
Regards,
Yitao
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Re: cflinuxfs2 stack not fount under v210.2 release
We built our own release using community source code, and he just told me that using cf-210002. I know that the stack are install during the deployment and i just verify that all deas have installed cflinusfs2 stack. On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Gwenn Etourneau <getourneau(a)pivotal.io> wrote: I mean which version are the DEA ? the stack do not live in the stemcell
... The stack are install during the deployment
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Yitao Jiang <jiangyt.cn(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Yes,all deas are built from same stemcell, all with fresh installation
+-------------------------------------------+---------+--------------------------------------+
| Name | Version | CID
|
+-------------------------------------------+---------+--------------------------------------+
| bosh-openstack-kvm-ubuntu-trusty-go_agent | 2978* |
bc3592a8-64fd-44b1-a9c0-797953f86e13 |
+-------------------------------------------+---------+--------------------------------------+
(*) Currently in-use
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Gwenn Etourneau <getourneau(a)pivotal.io>
wrote:
Are you sure all you DEA are at the same version ?
I think so but I don't know maybe rare case.
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Yitao Jiang <jiangyt.cn(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi,
Does any body ever have the problem of deploying application failed in *cflinuxfs2
stack not found?*
we deployed v210.2 release and occasionally it failed in* cflinuxfs2
not found* when deploying. It's weird that the nats with 2 nodes all
works fine, i can manually received the msgs distributed among the cluster.
Regards,
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Re: Allow gorouter to log random headers.
Thank you, James. That helps.
What bothered me about this thread was that the use case was presented as,
"as an unspecified persona, I want to customize the multi-tenant router to
log specified headers for a few apps". This is troubling.
Instead it sounds like the use case is "as an operator of Cloud Foundry, I
want to enable logging of specified headers for all applications." This is
more compelling.
I'm skeptical that this manifest property should have a default. Who's to
say what the minimum list of "sensible" defaults is? Does WAKAWAKA make the
cut? j/k.
We'll take a PR.
Shannon Coen
Product Manager, Cloud Foundry
Pivotal, Inc.
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On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 8:46 AM, David Laing <david(a)davidlaing.com> wrote: James,
Yep - we're pretty much on the same page.
Only addition I would ask for is that the whitelist contain some
"sensible" defaults (eg, Trace-Id, Span-Id) that are switched on by
default; since then tight integration with tools like spring-cloud /
buildpacks would work out the box.
D
On 24 July 2015 at 16:26, James Bayer <jbayer(a)pivotal.io> wrote:
shannon,
from what i'm reading here about the use case, the main interest is that
a CF operator knows that their cf installation is more deeply integrated
with a specific log parsing solution for all/many apps on that platform
that choose to use it (whether than is ELK, Zipkin, etc). it does not sound
like it is a special case with lots of variation by many different app
teams on the cf installation. rather, it sounds like this is most likely to
be used as an installation-wide option to enhance the app developer / app
operations experience.
it seems like an operator configured whitelist set of headers that get
logged with the RTR message satisfies the current needs well and is
reasonable.
if we were to find that in the future lots of variation and different app
teams on the same CF wanted to have the RTR tier log many different headers
in the access log, then we could enhance the "log the whitelist of headers
to the access log" capability to be exposed to a limited number of headers
that each route could be configured by developers to specify that would
apply in addition to the operator configured logged headers. but it sounds
like that isn't needed right now.
simon/david, did i summarize this correctly?
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Simon Johansson <
simon(a)simonjohansson.com> wrote:
If I understand correctly, you're proposing that an operator of CloudFoundry configure GoRouter, which is a multi-tenant, shared service,
with knowledge specific to one or a few applications
That is indeed the proposal. In my org we work closely with the
different development streams to provide a good out of the box experience
by creating certain opt-in features that makes their life easier. This
would be one of those features, if you pass certain headers in your
requests thats standardised across the entire online organisation you will
be able to query for them in Kibana.
I understand that this is not the case in all environments.
If GoRouter logged whatever headers were included in the request, wouldn't this satisfy your requirements?
This would indeed satisfy my requests, but as David points out("However,
not having a whitelist of headers to log opens a possible DDOS attack
vector on the GoRouter") it might now be appropriate.
Based on what you've described, the persona is the app developer. Not necessarily, we operators are also very interested in certain
headers.
so control of what is logged should be in their hands. If one via the API could set headers that should be logged for an org,
space or application that would be magical. The need for a list of
"must-log-all-these-headers" would still be there I think as not to have to
maintain a list of these standardised headers across different objects.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:51 PM, Shannon Coen <scoen(a)pivotal.io> wrote:
This is not something that would be merged, as originally proposed,
without additional investigation and discussion.
If I understand correctly, you're proposing that an operator of
CloudFoundry configure GoRouter, which is a multi-tenant, shared service,
with knowledge specific to one or a few applications. This should not be an
operator responsibility, nor should the solution be specific to one or a
few applications.
The goal is "the flexibility of being able to annotate our logs with
what we consider to be important for our debugging purposes." More
specifically you're requesting logging of headers. Do you have a preference?
If GoRouter logged whatever headers were included in the request,
wouldn't this satisfy your requirements? Doesn't GoRouter do this already?
I'm interested in solving your requirement generically for all
applications, and focussing the user experience on the correct persona.
Based on what you've described, the persona is the app developer, so
control of what is logged should be in their hands. I'm also not convinced
GoRouter should have any knowledge of headers specific to one application
or another.
Shannon Coen
Product Manager, Cloud Foundry
Pivotal, Inc.
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Alex Lomov <
alexander.lomov(a)altoros.com> wrote:
Some time ago routing services were discussed on a CAB [1]. Here is a
description of this proposal.
Do you think that using such service will allow your developers to
cover this requirements?
[1]
http://www.activestate.com/blog/2015/02/cloud-foundry-advisory-board-meeting-2015-february
[2]
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bGOQxiKkmaw6uaRWGd-sXpxL0Y28d3QihcluI15FiIA/edit#heading=h.8djffzes9pnb
On Jul 21, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Simon Johansson <simon(a)simonjohansson.com>
wrote:
Howdie!
We have some devs who want to be able to trace a request troughout
their applications.
user -> a -> b -> c
|
|-> d -> e
When a user makes a request to "a" uuid is generated inside the app,
and the request to "b" from "a" will set a header(call it WAKAWAKA to
uuid), "b"'s call will passthrough WAKAWAKA to "c" and "d", "d" will
passthrough WAKAWAKA to "e". Etc.
We aggregate all RTR logs into ELK so it would be super helpful to
them to be able to filter on WAKAWAKA and get all the access logs(and app
logs aswell, they mostly use GELF so its easy for them to add whatewher
field they want) from the services involved.
I had a quick peek at the gorouter(
https://github.com/cloudfoundry/gorouter/blob/76668f5818ea8c089ff52a14fcdfbf703c8e8767/access_log/access_log_record.go#L40)
and it seems like this should be a simple PR.
1. To gorouter.yml add
passthrough_headers:
- WAKAWAKA
- X-Random-Header
2. In makeRecord at the bottom add something like(in psuedo)
data = {}
for header in passthrough_headers:
header_val = r.FormatRequestHeader("X-Forwarded-For")
if header_val:
passthrough_headers[header] = header_val
if data:
fmt.Fprintf(b, data.to_stringified_json())
That would yield a log line like
blurgh.dev.cf.private.domain.com - [21/07/2015:10:17:05 +0000] "GET
/statements?ascending=true&since=2015-06-30T14%3A10%3A03.078Z&skipStatementId=30a88204-0779-4385-9859-e4aabd30baf0
HTTP/1.1" 200 0 17 "-" "NING/1.0" 10.230.31.2:46204
x_forwarded_for:"-" vcap_request_id:1e58195a-cde6-4afd-7f03-43061c9ea91c
response_time:0.004927106 app_id:9784cd03-050d-4b74-9e90-5f17134a3f08
{"WAKAWAKA": "Space is the place", "X-Random-Header": "Once upon a midnight
dreary, while I pondered weak and weary"}
The reason for a stringified JSON is to make it easy to parse with
logstash or other loganalysis tools.
Before I spend time implementing, is this something you would merge?
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Re: cflinuxfs2 stack not fount under v210.2 release
I mean which version are the DEA ? the stack do not live in the stemcell
... The stack are install during the deployment
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On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Yitao Jiang <jiangyt.cn(a)gmail.com> wrote: Yes,all deas are built from same stemcell, all with fresh installation
+-------------------------------------------+---------+--------------------------------------+
| Name | Version | CID
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+-------------------------------------------+---------+--------------------------------------+
| bosh-openstack-kvm-ubuntu-trusty-go_agent | 2978* |
bc3592a8-64fd-44b1-a9c0-797953f86e13 |
+-------------------------------------------+---------+--------------------------------------+
(*) Currently in-use
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Gwenn Etourneau <getourneau(a)pivotal.io>
wrote:
Are you sure all you DEA are at the same version ?
I think so but I don't know maybe rare case.
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Yitao Jiang <jiangyt.cn(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi,
Does any body ever have the problem of deploying application failed in *cflinuxfs2
stack not found?*
we deployed v210.2 release and occasionally it failed in* cflinuxfs2
not found* when deploying. It's weird that the nats with 2 nodes all
works fine, i can manually received the msgs distributed among the cluster.
Regards,
Yitao
jiangyt.github.io
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Re: cflinuxfs2 stack not fount under v210.2 release
Yes,all deas are built from same stemcell, all with fresh installation +-------------------------------------------+---------+--------------------------------------+ | Name | Version | CID | +-------------------------------------------+---------+--------------------------------------+ | bosh-openstack-kvm-ubuntu-trusty-go_agent | 2978* | bc3592a8-64fd-44b1-a9c0-797953f86e13 | +-------------------------------------------+---------+--------------------------------------+ (*) Currently in-use On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Gwenn Etourneau <getourneau(a)pivotal.io> wrote: Are you sure all you DEA are at the same version ?
I think so but I don't know maybe rare case.
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Yitao Jiang <jiangyt.cn(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Does any body ever have the problem of deploying application failed in *cflinuxfs2
stack not found?*
we deployed v210.2 release and occasionally it failed in* cflinuxfs2 not
found* when deploying. It's weird that the nats with 2 nodes all works
fine, i can manually received the msgs distributed among the cluster.
Regards,
Yitao
jiangyt.github.io
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Re: cflinuxfs2 stack not fount under v210.2 release
Are you sure all you DEA are at the same version ?
I think so but I don't know maybe rare case.
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On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Yitao Jiang <jiangyt.cn(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi,
Does any body ever have the problem of deploying application failed in *cflinuxfs2
stack not found?*
we deployed v210.2 release and occasionally it failed in* cflinuxfs2 not
found* when deploying. It's weird that the nats with 2 nodes all works
fine, i can manually received the msgs distributed among the cluster.
Regards,
Yitao
jiangyt.github.io
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Re: 3 etcd nodes don't work well in single zone
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cflinuxfs2 stack not fount under v210.2 release
Hi,
Does any body ever have the problem of deploying application failed in
*cflinuxfs2
stack not found?*
we deployed v210.2 release and occasionally it failed in* cflinuxfs2 not
found* when deploying. It's weird that the nats with 2 nodes all works
fine, i can manually received the msgs distributed among the cluster.
Regards,
Yitao
jiangyt.github.io
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