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Re: Eirini in 2019 CFAR certification requirements
Matt Cholick
The eirini repository's current README (https://github.com/cloudfoundry-incubator/eirini#y-tho-y) states: "Partly a fun experiment, partly a proof of concept" That phrasing doesn't read as a component I would want to run in production (or in a certified distribution). That section doesn't really dive into strong detail as to "why" the project important either. I think fleshing that section out more would be valuable. -Matt
On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 8:13 AM Chip Childers <cchilders@...> wrote:
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Re: smoke-test instances
Josh Collins
Hey Russell,
You probably know this, but it's worth stating that cf-deployment deploys cf-smoke-tests as an errand so no VM will be created until you run the bosh command to run the smoke-tests errand. Since you shared an error, perhaps you attempted to run the errand and this is the response? Regardless, I'd like to invite you to engage us in Slack rather than this cf-dev list as we'll be able to more actively respond: #cloud-foundry When you post your issue to the cloud-foundry slack channel, please include the bosh deploy command you used to deploy your foundation, the bosh command you used which triggered the error response you included above, and the error output (perhaps with a bit more output before/after the snippet you included here). Thanks so much! Josh and the CF Release Integration team
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Call for Papers Deadline for CF Summit (Philadelphia)
Dear Cloud Foundry Community,
The deadline for submitting your speaking proposals for Cloud Foundry Summit North America 2019 in Philadelphia is this Friday, November 30 at 11.59pm US Pacific. Please submit your proposals before the deadline. Please submit here: https://www.cloudfoundry.org/event_subpages/cfna-2019-cfp/ If you'd like to get your abstract reviewed or need some help finessing your abstract, please do not hesitate to ping @cfp-help on #summit channel on the Cloud Foundry slack. There will not be an extension to the deadline this time. Please do not hesitate to contact me (via email or slack) if you have any questions. Regards, Swarna.
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smoke-test instances
Russell Blue
Hi,
I deployed cloud foundry on openstack and 15 vms created but smoke-test dont create. please help me. error: Blobstore object not found best reagards,
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Re: Apps/microservices that have long request processing times.
Nikolay Valchev
Hi,
Are there any plans for enabling the graceful shutdown configuration on app level? From user experience point of view this is very similar to the health check timeout, which is configurable to max of 180, if not configured differently by CF operators.
Thanks, Nikolay
From: <cf-dev@...> on behalf of Liu Liming <andyliuliming@...>
Hi Jo, I think there’s one config in the rep job: containers.graceful_shutdown_interval_in_seconds: description: "EXPERIMENTAL: time in seconds between signalling a container to shutdown gracefully and stopping it forcefully. Should not be less than 10." default: 10 if you are using the open source version of CF, I think you can overrite it under this path:
- name: rep release: diego properties: diego: executor: instance_identity_ca_cert: ((diego_instance_identity_ca.certificate)) instance_identity_key: ((diego_instance_identity_ca.private_key)) rep: preloaded_rootfses: - cflinuxfs2:/var/vcap/packages/cflinuxfs2/rootfs.tar use_vcontainer: false vcontainer: api_location: "vcontainer.service.cf.internal:8892" ca_cert: "((service_cf_internal_ca.certificate))" client_cert: "((diego_vcontainer_client.certificate))" client_key: "((diego_vcontainer_client.private_key))" containers: graceful_shutdown_interval_in_seconds: 10000000 trusted_ca_certificates: - ((application_ca.certificate))
And if you are using the PCF, I think you can use the ops manager to override the value if it provided one way to do this.
Thanks, Andy
From: <cf-dev@...> on behalf of Jonathan Stockley <jstockle@...>
Hi, According to https://docs.cloudfoundry.org/devguide/deploy-apps/prepare-to-deploy.html#moving-apps an app instance has only 10 seconds to finish processing a request before being killed off. I have an app that does document rendition generation and it can take upwards of 10 minutes for long documents. Is the 10 seconds grace period configurable?
Thanks, Jo
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Re: DNS on cf-deployment
Sridhar Vennela
dns is bosh addon, you can run below command. bosh -e bosh-lite update-runtime-config bosh-deployment/runtime-configs/dns.yml --name dns Sridhar
On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 9:46 PM Russell Blue via Lists.Cloudfoundry.Org <bluerussell20=yahoo.com@...> wrote: Hi,
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DNS on cf-deployment
Russell Blue
Hi,
I deploy bosh and cf-deployment without DNS. How can deploy with dns? please help me. best regards
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Re: action failed: cloud controller ng
Russell Blue
Hi,
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I resolved this error when change "seytem_domain=example.com". But I have post-start error and log has blobstore object not found. please help me. kind regard --------------------------------------------
On Mon, 11/19/18, Chris Selzo <cselzo@...> wrote:
Subject: Re: [cf-dev] action failed: cloud controller ng To: cf-dev@... Date: Monday, November 19, 2018, 8:44 PM Hello, Can you provide us with more details? What part of cloud controller failed? Pre-start, start, post-start? What do the logs look like? If the bundle error you're seeing is the same as in https://www.pivotaltracker.com/story/show/151020004, that's not worth worrying about. Thanks,Chris On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 12:02 AM Russell Blue via Lists.Cloudfoundry.Org <bluerussell20=yahoo.com@...> wrote: Hi, I deployed cf-deployment on openstack. all vms are running but action cloud controller ng failed. I review log file and I see ''bundle" error. please help me best regards
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Re: Is it true that only one application can run/scale in a space?
#cf
Simon D Moser
Hi Steve,
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I realized way too late that I should have even recognized the questions ... totally my bad, should have ignored :-( Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards Simon Moser Senior Technical Staff Member / IBM Master Inventor Bluemix Application Platform Lead Architect Dept. C727, IBM Research & Development Boeblingen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM Deutschland Schoenaicher Str. 220 71032 Boeblingen Phone: +49-7031-16-4304 Fax: +49-7031-16-4890 E-Mail: smoser@... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM Deutschland Research & Development GmbH / Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Martina Koederitz Geschäftsführung: Dirk Wittkopp Sitz der Gesellschaft: Böblingen / Registergericht: Amtsgericht Stuttgart, HRB 243294 ******* ITIL has led people to think in siloes ("go fix change management"). Project Management has led people to think in finite units of work instead of streams of product. Both are fundamental dysfunctions of the framework model, not failures of execution. ⁃ Rob England From: "Steve Taylor" <staylor@...> To: cf-dev@... Date: 19/11/2018 17:41 Subject: Re: [cf-dev] Is it true that only one application can run/scale in a space? #cf Sent by: cf-dev@... Simon, it feels very much like `borntorule76` is doing a homework assignment, as opposed to asking genuine questions. I was perplexed by their hail of questions (including the format - multiple, unrelated, choice?) until a coworker pointed out that this happens from time to time.
On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 8:14 AM Simon D Moser <smoser@...> wrote: no. not true. Where did you read that ? Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards Simon Moser Senior Technical Staff Member / IBM Master Inventor Bluemix Application Platform Lead Architect Dept. C727, IBM Research & Development Boeblingen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM Deutschland Schoenaicher Str. 220 71032Boeblingen Phone: +49-7031-16-4304 Fax: +49-7031-16-4890 E-Mail: smoser@... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM Deutschland Research & Development GmbH / Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Martina Koederitz Geschäftsführung: Dirk Wittkopp Sitz der Gesellschaft: Böblingen / Registergericht: Amtsgericht Stuttgart, HRB 243294 ******* ITIL has led people to think in siloes ("go fix change management"). Project Management has led people to think in finite units of work instead of streams of product. Both are fundamental dysfunctions of the framework model, not failures of execution. ⁃ Rob England From: borntorule73@... To: cf-dev@... Date: 17/11/2018 07:28 Subject: [cf-dev] Is it true that only one application can run/scale in a space? #cf Sent by: cf-dev@... Is it true that only one application can run/scale in a space?
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Re: action failed: cloud controller ng
Chris Selzo
Hello, Can you provide us with more details? What part of cloud controller failed? Pre-start, start, post-start? What do the logs look like? If the bundle error you're seeing is the same as in https://www.pivotaltracker.com/story/show/151020004, that's not worth worrying about. Thanks, Chris
On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 12:02 AM Russell Blue via Lists.Cloudfoundry.Org <bluerussell20=yahoo.com@...> wrote: Hi,
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Re: Is it true that only one application can run/scale in a space?
#cf
Steve Taylor
Simon, it feels very much like `borntorule76` is doing a homework assignment, as opposed to asking genuine questions. I was perplexed by their hail of questions (including the format - multiple, unrelated, choice?) until a coworker pointed out that this happens from time to time.
On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 8:14 AM Simon D Moser <smoser@...> wrote: no. not true. Where did you read that ?
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Re: Is it true that only one application can run/scale in a space?
#cf
Simon D Moser
no. not true. Where did you read that ?
Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards Simon Moser Senior Technical Staff Member / IBM Master Inventor Bluemix Application Platform Lead Architect Dept. C727, IBM Research & Development Boeblingen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM Deutschland Schoenaicher Str. 220 71032 Boeblingen Phone: +49-7031-16-4304 Fax: +49-7031-16-4890 E-Mail: smoser@... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM Deutschland Research & Development GmbH / Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Martina Koederitz Geschäftsführung: Dirk Wittkopp Sitz der Gesellschaft: Böblingen / Registergericht: Amtsgericht Stuttgart, HRB 243294 ******* ITIL has led people to think in siloes ("go fix change management"). Project Management has led people to think in finite units of work instead of streams of product. Both are fundamental dysfunctions of the framework model, not failures of execution. ⁃ Rob England From: borntorule73@... To: cf-dev@... Date: 17/11/2018 07:28 Subject: [cf-dev] Is it true that only one application can run/scale in a space? #cf Sent by: cf-dev@... Is it true that only one application can run/scale in a space?
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Re: Eirini in 2019 CFAR certification requirements
Chip Childers <cchilders@...>
On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 5:03 AM Krannich, Bernd <bernd.krannich@...> wrote:
This is an accurate statement.
Ack - will work on that. :)
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Re: What is the URL of an application in Cloudofundry?
#cf
Simon D Moser
It's derived from the CF system domain.
If your CF system domain is "mycf.com", the app would be "myApp.mycf.com"
Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards Simon Moser Senior Technical Staff Member / IBM Master Inventor Bluemix Application Platform Lead Architect Dept. C727, IBM Research & Development Boeblingen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM Deutschland Schoenaicher Str. 220 71032 Boeblingen Phone: +49-7031-16-4304 Fax: +49-7031-16-4890 E-Mail: smoser@... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM Deutschland Research & Development GmbH / Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Martina Koederitz Geschäftsführung: Dirk Wittkopp Sitz der Gesellschaft: Böblingen / Registergericht: Amtsgericht Stuttgart, HRB 243294 ******* ITIL has led people to think in siloes ("go fix change management"). Project Management has led people to think in finite units of work instead of streams of product. Both are fundamental dysfunctions of the framework model, not failures of execution. ⁃ Rob England From: borntorule73@... To: cf-dev@... Date: 17/11/2018 07:27 Subject: [cf-dev] What is the URL of an application in Cloudofundry? #cf Sent by: cf-dev@... Is it - 1. Subdomain.domain 2. Domain.subdomain 3. Subdomain 4. Domain 5. None
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Re: Can same application be deployed to multiple spaces?
#cf
Simon D Moser
yes it can. I think per default they would
have to get differnt routes though (although I think there is a way to
even overcome that in case you really want, but that surely is a special
use-case)
Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards Simon Moser Senior Technical Staff Member / IBM Master Inventor Bluemix Application Platform Lead Architect Dept. C727, IBM Research & Development Boeblingen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM Deutschland Schoenaicher Str. 220 71032 Boeblingen Phone: +49-7031-16-4304 Fax: +49-7031-16-4890 E-Mail: smoser@... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM Deutschland Research & Development GmbH / Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Martina Koederitz Geschäftsführung: Dirk Wittkopp Sitz der Gesellschaft: Böblingen / Registergericht: Amtsgericht Stuttgart, HRB 243294 ******* ITIL has led people to think in siloes ("go fix change management"). Project Management has led people to think in finite units of work instead of streams of product. Both are fundamental dysfunctions of the framework model, not failures of execution. ⁃ Rob England From: borntorule73@... To: cf-dev@... Date: 17/11/2018 07:27 Subject: [cf-dev] Can same application be deployed to multiple spaces? #cf Sent by: cf-dev@... Can someone suggest if a same application be deployed to multiple spaces?
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Re: What is the topmost administrative unit in Cloudfoundry?
#cf
Simon D Moser
Depends how you define "administrative"
I guess. Org is definitly higher than Space (an org can contain 1--N spaces),
and roles & membership rights are controlled on the org/space level
Quota is a bit orthogonal to it (as you can define org and space quotas) - see https://docs.cloudfoundry.org/adminguide/quota-plans.html Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards Simon Moser Senior Technical Staff Member / IBM Master Inventor Bluemix Application Platform Lead Architect Dept. C727, IBM Research & Development Boeblingen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM Deutschland Schoenaicher Str. 220 71032 Boeblingen Phone: +49-7031-16-4304 Fax: +49-7031-16-4890 E-Mail: smoser@... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM Deutschland Research & Development GmbH / Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Martina Koederitz Geschäftsführung: Dirk Wittkopp Sitz der Gesellschaft: Böblingen / Registergericht: Amtsgericht Stuttgart, HRB 243294 ******* ITIL has led people to think in siloes ("go fix change management"). Project Management has led people to think in finite units of work instead of streams of product. Both are fundamental dysfunctions of the framework model, not failures of execution. ⁃ Rob England From: borntorule73@... To: cf-dev@... Date: 17/11/2018 07:26 Subject: [cf-dev] What is the topmost administrative unit in Cloudfoundry? #cf Sent by: cf-dev@... 1. Space 2. Quota 3. Organization 4. None
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Re: What are the new components of DEIGO?
#cf
Mike Lloyd <mike@...>
Here are the current components:
You can find more about each of the components here: https://docs.cloudfoundry.org/concepts/diego/diego-architecture.html
Let us know if that doesn’t help.
Thanks,
Mike.
From: cf-dev@... <cf-dev@...>
On Behalf Of borntorule73@...
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 12:47 AM To: cf-dev@... Subject: Re: [cf-dev] What are the new components of DEIGO? #cf
I am not spamming, just trying to seek help. This is a help forum if I am not wrong!
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Re: Eirini in 2019 CFAR certification requirements
Daniel Jones
Hi all, The most important thing to ensure is that folks know what they're getting. It is in no-one's interests for a customer/user to think they're getting Cloud Foundry, and then find it doesn't offer all the advertised features - that would undermine trust in Cloud Foundry as a technology, and as a community. If Eirini is optional in the certification and there's a clear feature matrix in the docs for each Eirini release detailing feature parity with Diego, then there is no danger of this happening. Perhaps those not in favour of including Eirini in the certification spec could define the scope of the feature matrix, to ensure that all their concerns are highlighted. Regards, Daniel 'Deejay' Jones - CTO +44 (0)79 8000 9153
On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 at 10:03, Krannich, Bernd <bernd.krannich@...> wrote:
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action failed: cloud controller ng
Russell Blue
Hi,
I deployed cf-deployment on openstack. all vms are running but action cloud controller ng failed. I review log file and I see ''bundle" error. please help me best regards
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Re: Eirini in 2019 CFAR certification requirements
Krannich, Bernd
Hi all,
For SAP, as a CFF member having developers working on Eirini fulltime, it is evident that Troy’s
> a number of us are keen to see Kubernetes-native app scheduling in CFAR distributions as soon as possible. Ideally we would like these distributions to be certified by the CF Foundation when they are released.
includes SAP as well.
Following Simon’s reasoning, not being able to certify a distribution running Eirini would actually be an adoption blocker for us. Also, similar to IBM, it is a well-kept secret that SAP is running some of the biggest Cloud Foundry deployments world-wide (oops, now I told it…), so we’ll do our part to make sure that Eirini is scaling and capable to run production workloads.
I did some “internet archeology” to see how we handled the DEA à Diego switch and certification. Unfortunately, I think the old certification docs are gone from the Cloud Foundry homepage [1], but there’s archive.org, fortunately:
Thanks, Bernd
[1] Feedback: For governance docs (@Chip Childers), it might be worthwhile to keep things in a public Github repo, too.
From:
<cf-dev@...> on behalf of Simon D Moser <smoser@...>
While i agree that Eirini needs more Battle-testing and production evaluation still, i think the key is this not a certification *requirement*, but rather a *certification option*. From my point of view, IBM will have a commercial Eirini out in 2019 and we want that not to be non-certified. Up to an cf adopter whether he‘ll take the risk to pick it up or not, but if you do you should be within the certification.
FWIW, with SUSE SCF and IBM CFEE there will likely be at least two production adopter products in 2019, and the community cannot and does not want to make that decision dependent on PCF adoption. Other projects have been production tested on other CF offerings like IBM Bluemix in the past, so PCF is not (and should not be) the only quality gate for an open source project.
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