Re: Thoughts on cf-for-k8s Use Cases

Daniel Jones

Hey all!

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Bernd.

It sounds like there are a lot of overheads for SAP in adopting cf-for-k8s. More operational complexity managing many clusters, and then the effort of migrating from cf-for-VMs to the new world. Is this all worth it? Are end-users clamouring to be able to deploy things to Kubernetes alongside their CF apps?

The notion of specifying different target runtime environments per isolation segment is intriguing. If this were possible, would it be simpler to stick with cf-for-VMs, and have a Kubernetes cluster for each tenant that runs apps and user workloads? This would be exactly the same as running Eirini on cf-for-VMs (which VMware published as an offering), except there'd be the option for one-Kubernetes-per-tenant.

As an aside, I do sincerely hope that the large CF vendors are intending to heavily market CF as the easy mode for Kubernetes. I wonder if all the migration efforts required to adopt cf-for-k8s are worthwhile to existing users.

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On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 at 17:34, Wayne E. Seguin <wayneeseguin@...> wrote:

Fantastic! I'm looking forward to reading it over, thank you for putting your thoughts down!



Wayne E. Seguin
CTO, Stark & Wayne LLC

On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 11:37 AM Krannich, Bernd <bernd.krannich@...> wrote:

Hello all,


With cf-for-k8s turning 1.0, I started putting my thoughts around “what’s next after what’s next for cf-for-k8s?” in writing.


I wanted to share the resulting document with the community to get feedback, additional perspectives and maybe even to inspire thinking around the topics I collected:





Bernd Krannich

SAP Cloud Platform


Dietmar-Hopp-Allee 16, 69190 Walldorf, Germany


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