Re: Proposal: Add support for SUSE stack and stemcells

Krannich, Bernd <bernd.krannich@...>

Hi Jeff,

This is indeed exciting. With our large set of on prem software installations running on more “Enterprisy” Linux distros offering a SUSE stemcell opens up a couple of opportunities. While I can’t promise that we’ll actually use this option it’s a prerequisite for us to have a major vendor like SUSE behind such an effort to even start discussing.

In the past, we have seen some “no-nos” in major BOSH releases (like installing a Debian package for the single VM Postgres in cf-release [I know, I know, single VM Postgres’es are anyhow considered development only]). I hope this move and the testing you are suggesting encourages people to look into alternatives of getting their software deployed inside a BOSH release.


P.S.: Needless to say, we are anyhow working very closely with you guys in the context of the joint OpenStack CPI work and related Dojo. So, there will be opportunities to further discuss the topic.

Bernd Krannich
SAP Cloud Platform
Dietmar-Hopp-Allee 16, 69190 Walldorf, Germany

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From: Chip Childers <cchilders(a)>
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Date: Monday, 22. May 2017 at 18:09
To: "Discussions about Cloud Foundry projects and the system overall." <cf-dev(a)>
Subject: [cf-dev] Re: Proposal: Add support for SUSE stack and stemcells

Exciting stuff. In particular, getting an OS vendor involved in the upstream seems like a really good move for the community overall. :)

On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 12:02 PM Jeff Hobbs <jeff.hobbs(a)<mailto:jeff.hobbs(a)>> wrote:
Hi CF devs,

SUSE would like to present a proposal to add support for SUSE Linux as a stack and stemcell option, alongside the current Ubuntu base.

The intent is to allow SUSE Linux as a certified and supported variant, but not replace Ubuntu. Much of this was already technically possible with clean separations currently in place.

We have undergone a spike internally to determine feasibility, through to fully working openSUSE stemcell and stack that passes CATs and BATs. We have prepared a document[1] which discusses the intentions and the work involved to get there.

We believe this can be supported in an ongoing manner and are willing to provide the resources to do this. We have had an initial discussion with Chip, Mike and Onsi to ensure the basic premise was workable and we’d done enough initial experimentations. Now we wanted to present this proposed idea for open discussion here.

The next steps are (1) this community discussion on the proposal and (2) a follow-on spike with current upstream contributors who have experience over the current CF build system and buildpacks to flesh out potential unknown unknowns in supporting an alternative stack and stem.

Please feel free to give your thoughts in this thread and/or comment in the attached document.


Jeff Hobbs
Director, Engineering
SUSE Application Platforms

Chip Childers
CTO, Cloud Foundry Foundation

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