Re: Ubuntu Xenial stemcell and rootfs plans

Mike Youngstrom <youngm@...>

I may not have anything that qualifies as compelling. But, here are some
of the reasons I've got:

* If skipping Xenial that give at the most 1 year to transition from trusty
to a 2018.04 based rootfs. Lets say it takes 6 months to get the new
rootFS into our customers hands and for everyone to be comfortable enough
with it to make it the default. I don't think 6 months is enough time for
my users to naturally transition all of their applications via pushes and
restages to the new rootfs. The more time we have with the new rootfs as
the default the less I will need to bother my customers to test before I
force them to change.

* Xenial uses OpenSSL 1.0.2. Improving security by not statically
compiling OpenSSL into Node would be nice.

* With the lucid rootfs after a while it became difficult to find pre-built
libraries for Lucid. This put increased burden on me to identify and
provide lucid compatible builds for some common tools. One example of this
is wkhtmltopdf a commonly used tool in my organization.

I think the biggest thing for me is that the move from Lucid to Trusty was
a nightmare for me and my customers. Though better planning and adding a
couple of more months to the process would help, giving my users a couple
of years to migrate would be better. :)


On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Danny Rosen <drosen(a)> wrote:

Hey Mike,

Thanks for reaching out. We've discussed supporting Xenial recently but
have had trouble identifying compelling reasons to do so. Our current
version of the rootfs is supported until April 2019 [1] and while we do not
plan on waiting until March 2019 :) we want to understand compelling
reasons to go forward with the work sooner than later.

On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Mike Youngstrom <youngm(a)> wrote:

Ubuntu Xenial Xerus was released a few weeks ago. Any plans to
incorporate Xenial into the platform? Stemcells and/or new root fs?

The recent lucid to trusty rootfs fire drill was frustrating to my
customers. I'm hoping that this year we can get a Xenial rootfs out
loooong before trusty support ends so I don't have to put another tight
deadline on my customers to test and move.



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