Re: App autosleep support


Noburou TANIGUCHI
 

Just FYI:

Spindown logic has once been (experimentally) implemented but seemed never
used:

*
https://github.com/cloudfoundry/cloud_controller_ng/commit/e7af12d832b07a56ad34ccc7bb27426d9e3e84bc
*
https://github.com/cloudfoundry/cloud_controller_ng/commit/e592281d1c3c5a7a359d1a87a8ffb1e74ff44b7f
*
https://github.com/cloudfoundry/cloud_controller_ng/commit/545cd8b5542a55e04b0c66f7cfc4ea3f55cf4572


The model of application has a deprecated flag named "production":

* http://apidocs.cloudfoundry.org/214/apps/creating_an_app.html

It seems to be intended to distinguish memory usage of "free" apps and
"paid" apps:

*
https://github.com/cloudfoundry/cloud_controller_ng/commit/ad4911f7349d2923acb3c6cc95e00a9fd66577b5
*
https://github.com/cloudfoundry/cloud_controller_ng/commit/5c07b49a66803c5539eb4be9ed4cbf9530f6303b



Klevenz, Stephan wrote
Hi Guillaume,

We have a similar motivation for such feature request for saving
resources. We tried that our with a quickly implement POC and made similar
experience as you have written in the document. Here is in short what we
did:

* measure inactivity of an app – we took the time stamp of last log
entry for an application and compared it with a fresh-hold – for the POC
this was good enough but maybe a better measure is needed
* inactive apps – stop application and let all app routes point to a
watch dog application
* watch dog – if a route is accessed then the watch dog wakes up the
app, moves routes back to the app and redirects the request after app is
up again

We played also with CPU, number of requests and other measures to scale up
and down applications.

Challenges we did identify were:

* find the right measure for inactive apps
* start, stop or scale apps require permissions
* enable the feature only for dedicated orgs or spaces (e.g. a trial
org)
* quick wakeup of app
* a deeper integration into CF could make sense (get better measures,
better permission control, configure thresh hold for apps via CF CLI …)

We did implement this POC on top to the CC API. Using such feature in
production will cause more issues and findings.

Regards,
Stephan


Von: Guillaume Berche
Antworten an: "Discussions about Cloud Foundry projects and the system
overall."
Datum: Donnerstag, 30. Juli 2015 12:46
An: cf-dev
Betreff: [cf-dev] App autosleep support

Hi,

I wonder if there are plans to implement an auto-sleep behavior in
cloudfoundry, in which inactive apps would be automatically stopped after
a max inactivity threshold, and automatically restart upon arrival of
traffic on their routes. Similar to google app engine default behavior [1]

I did not find mentions of this yet in mailing lists and trackers.

We feel at Orange that such feature can improve the density for some of
our non-prod use-cases (with environmental and financial benefits).

I'd like to know if someone in the community already worked on such
feature or would be interested in collaborating on an opensource
implementation.

I drafted some specs for a java-based implementation we're planning to
work on [2]. I'd love to hear feedbacks and suggestions on this.

Thanks in advance,

Guillaume.

[1] https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/java/modules/
[2]
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tMhIBX3tw7kPEOMCzKhUgmtmr26GVxyXwUTwMO71THI/edit#

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